Please, Nabisco, bring them back! Perfect. I just for the heck of it thought I would search this cookie as I think of them ALL THE TIME.I have NEVER EVER had another cookie to compare to these.PLEASE COME BACK - IDEAL COOKIE BARS !!! I would, I loved them. Hacked recipe available? I would say that I am amazed with how many people remember Ideal cookies but I am not. I have tried all the "almost Ideal Bars". Do we have to wait until the Kraft foods no longer has the patten on the cookies. We lived in Florida and they tended to melt otherwise. I am glad to see I am not the only Ideal obsessed kook out there. I remember these well, I too have discussed with Nabisco about getting these back on the shelf,but no I have to make do with my home made peanutbutter chocolate bars pretty good but not an Ideal bar. Is it my distorted memory or were Ideal Peanut Butter Bars only available in the fall and winter? I still look at the grocery store shelves to see if they are there. I CAN REMEMBER WHEN OCTOBER CAME AROUND WE STARTED LOOKING IN THE GROCERY FOR IDEAL COOKIES. Why is Oreo banned in USA? Please bring them back! My sister and I wear talking about these cookies and I had to google them. I would love to have them again. I snuck them down and proceded to eat every single one of them in that brown, orange, and see- through wrapper. Sorry Mother and Daddy, you couldn't stop us!!! So many people would buy them just for the memories. Its comforting knowing my insanity has friends. The recipe I normally use as the closest approach to the original Brown Edge Wafer that Nabisco used to make is this one from Cookie Madness, based on a recipe from the potato flour packaging. I am so excited to find so many other Ideal-a-holics! It's always about the money. Why did they discontinue the cookies!! I thought they were originally produced by a smaller company than Nabisco, but could be mistaken. Great to see all the Love. I'd BEG the president of Nabisco to re-introduce them, if it would do any good! Craft/Nabisco (877)535-5666. The Little Debbie things are similar but nowhere close to as good. Every trip down the cookie isle, I scan every shelf looking for them. I remember the ideal bar as a kid and a quick snack when traveling across the nation or mom packing them in our lunch. These were and remain my all-time favorite cookie. As a milk chocolate/peanut butter junkie, these were simply the best! google_ad_format = "120x600_as";
I love Ideal cookies!!! NABISCO, WHY DID YOU STOP MAKING THEM???!!! Wow, I thought I was the only one who remembered these great tasting cookies. I just got home from the store. Roll into small balls and place on ungreased or parchment lined cookie sheets. I've been looking for them for years-I was thinking maybe I just didn't remember the name and that's why I couldn't find them. The peanut butter was kind of salty and my brother and sister and I could eat a whole pack of them. They're calling to me now! I miss Lemon Coolers and My Dad Harold Hourihan more! I can pass up any other store bought cookie but not these. I had always kept an eye out for these and time to time I would find them (and buy a few boxes!!! Too bad Nabisco/Mondel. My Mom and I were just talking about Ideal cookies. Then I just took one, so he could not be sure if his count was off one. Of course we stuck pretty close to those Ideals. In 1882, the entrepreneur Jacob Loose bought a biscuit and candy company that would eventually be known as Sunshine Biscuits (after the companys baking plant designs) and, in 1908, launched the biscuit sandwich known as Hydrox. I hated to see that they discontinued them!!!!!!! Once Nabisco had removed the lard, mainly for health reasons, going kosher became possible. Nothing compares. Please bring them back, Nabisco! If this cookie comes back with the same quailty as before, I'll will always buy this cookie! I was so bummed when they discontinued them. Please bring them back Nabisco!!! I still crave them and will support any effort to making them available again. I still have dreams about these cookiesonce came home for lunch from school and mom had gone to a meeting. google_color_text = "000000";
http://www.mondelezinternational.com/ ( MondelezInternationaldotcom)has bought out the snack division of Nabisco. They really should bring them back!!!!! Layer by Layer: A Mexico City Culinary Adventure, Sacred Granaries, Kasbahs and Feasts in Morocco, Monster of the Month: The Hopkinsville Goblins, Writing the Food Memoir: A Workshop With Gina Rae La Cerva, Reading the Urban Landscape With Annie Novak, How to Grow a Dye Garden With Aaron Sanders Head, Making Scents: Experimental Perfumery With Saskia Wilson-Brown, Indigenous Desserts of Turtle Island With Mariah Gladstone, University of Massachusetts Entomology Collection, The Frozen Banana Stands of Balboa Island, The Paratethys Sea Was the Largest Lake in Earths History, How Communities Are Uncovering Untold Black Histories, The Medieval Thieves Who Used Cats, Apes, and Turtles as Accomplices, Some Cyclists in Omaha Improved a Bike Lane With 120 Plungers, Puzzle Monday: Historical Sammies Crossword, The Underground Cooks of Singapore's Prisons, The Rise and Fall of Alaska's 'Reindeer King', German Lebkuchen Are a Labor of Love With a Centuries-Old History, Show & Tell: Inside a House of Hot Sauce With Vic Clinco, The Secret to China's Bounciest Meatballs, Hawaiis Native-Language Newspaper Archive, 'Discovering' Mexico's Monarch Butterfly Migration, The Real Story Behind George Washington's Dentures, See the Mysterious Horned Helmet of Henry VIII. Another favorite of mine was TostettesI loved them because they were so moist and full of fruit and had a little sprinkle of sugar on topjust the right amount (cold or hot). Seems Nabisco has no choice but to bring them back. Every Sunday my stepdad would bring them home from the Fort Mac Commissary and I'd try and eat the whole box that day. - Touche, old man! Family-run for more than a century, this pizzeria makes a unique mustard pie. 2. I used to look forward to our Sunday visits to my grandparents. //2007-06-05: inthe70s
You kept the box for Honey Maid Graham Crackers the same size, but significantly shrank the size of the crackers inside it. That is absurd in a world where Reese's Peanut Butter Cups are one of Hershey's #1 sale items. I have tried to find something similar, but no way can anything else compare. Cheers to all you fellow Ideal Cookie Lovers! Maybe they didnt make enough profit or something. I would buy them by the case. And for those of you who say, Get over it, its only a cookie, you have not lived until you have tasted a Hydrox.. I remember them not being available in the summer months and assume this was because the chocolate would melt. Where can you find these cookies ? Glad to find this comment page and know we are not nuts. Maybe we need to start our own petition to Nabisco! Best cookie ever made!! You have many loyal customers. Nabisco, if you do bring them back, KEEP THE RECIPE EXACTLY THE SAME!!! They were that good. There's only one way to get big corps attn anymorethe moneybet if we all boycotted Nabisco and Kraft products we'd have them by next Christmas! Hey NABISCO ITS TIME!!! My sister and I were reminiscing and wishing they were still around. The absolute BEST cookie ever produced on this planet in my lifetime. I would dearly love to give my dad a package of Ideal cookies. My sisters and I loved them and ordering GS Tagalongs reminds us every year that they've disappeared. Take 2 Ritz crackers, put peanut butter between them, dip in melted milk chocolate, place on a buttered cookie sheet - load up the sheet with them and refrigerate for about 5 minutes. Bring them back! I guess they don't need the money. Who wants to go to the store for cookies and basically have only one choice???? I might even vote for Newt Gingrich if he promised to bring our declicious little ideal bars backwell, I'm not sure if I'd do that, but I would consider it. Anyway, I wish they would bring them back, That would make the perfect Mothers Day present:), I'm glad it wasn't my imaginationI have had dreams of those fantastic cookie bars! "Ideal Bars" were the BEST!!! Please, someone foreward all these requests to Nabisco. After a little research I have discovered that Nabisco was bought by Kraft back in 2000. google_color_url = "1F2B9E";
The Ideal bar was the best cookie they ever madeperiod. I think maybe Nabisco, but not real sure. IF WE ALL MAKE A CALL WITHIN THE NEXT 3 DAYS, MAYBE THEY MIGHT WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE; WHICH BY THE WAY GOES GREAT WITH AN "IDEAL" BAR. all cookies sold all over the world), which was valued at $30.62 billion in 2018, has been projected to expand at a compounded actual growth rate of 5.3% . The problem, of course, was probably the name. The best cookie ever - my Ohio farm raised husband never tasted one. I can still taste them. The absolute best cookie I have ever had. I thought I was the only one who missed these cookies. I asked the Vermont Country Store to get them going again, I have not seen them in their catalog yet. My dad used to get at least to boxes of these one for himself and another for the kids. Can ANYONEconvince Nabisco to re-make these cookiesPLEASE, I loved Those Cookies -- Mom used to have to hide them in the 2nd drawer -- they were such a treat -- and I'd love to have them again. Another option for you might be to spread peanut butter on Ritz crackers, dip them in melted chocolate chips, let cool and consume. which are offered at higher prices. Lots of people WANT these cookies back in production!!! won't give an experimental 6-month return of the IDEAL BARS. When Oreo began populating store shelves in 1912, it . Thanks, Mark. In regards to the Trader Joes Pretzels. After reading the previous post, I got in my car and drove 45 minutes to Trader Joes and purchased a bag. I USED TO GET THE IDEAL COOKIES FROM MY PARENTS AS A GIFT. And it didnt help that that there was an existing Hydrox Chemical Company on the market, one that sold hydrogen peroxide and was caught up in a trademark lawsuit at the time over the use of the word hydroxa lawsuit that noted the term was used for coolers, for soda, even for brands of ice cream. I'm not sure I am that good a person. Wow, I had no idea "THEY" were gone forever, I thought they were just lost. The best part towards the end of them being around, we had to special order them, and then hope to get them before someone else snapped them up. I'm emailing them as we speak. There obviously must have been a quiet, well financed deal made for Nabisco to "bow out" of the competition! I LIVE IN SOUTH LOUISIANA AND WE ONLY HAD IDEAL COOKIES IN THE COOL MONTHS. These were my favorite cookies as a child and I also kept them in the fridge!! To put that into perspective, consider that the overall global cookies market (i.e. Please Please start making them again!!!!!!!!!!! To this day 30 years later we agree there was not a better cookie ever after they stopped making them. I will buy them out!!! I still remember how crazy rich they tasted. I havent had an Ideal cookie in about 45 years but they are still my favorite cookie- bar none. I was about 10 when they came into my life. It is clear that EVERYONE remembers how good these were and many have fond memories of these cookies as do I. "You have to have the right. These cookies RULED! Wouldn't you think Nabisco would want make some bucks and satisfy the public by bringing this cookie back to market? 2023 Atlas Obscura. While no where as good as the origional Ideal Bars, they are worth it, for a stared population of Ideal cookie fanatics !! Bring them back. I would love to see and taste the Ideal cookies again!!! Even though they were a little pricey compared to other cookies my mom always bought them because she knew how much I loved them. Years ago I contacted Nabisco about bringing them back but was told that would never happen. I kind of make a substitute with Ritz crackers, peanut butter and melted chocolate chips. It makes no sense!! I have never tasted anything remotely like the Ideal bars. hoping..praying.to see the most wonderful cookie ever made! I suggest we all keep contacting them. I am still looking for "Turkish Delights" myself. Cookies today do not compare with IDEAL cookies - they were and still are the best! Buy the Grandma's peanut butter sandwich creme cookies or Nutter Butter, but Grandmas is better to get the taste. A mouse got into the cupboard and ate one bite from each cookie -- I would happily still have eaten them all, but the counselors made me throw them out --I still get sad thinking about it!! I don't know what is stopping them. Oreo was one of three cookies introduced by Nabisco on April 2, 1912, with the other twothe Mother Goose biscuit and the Veronese biscuitnow lost to history. The cookie aisles at the grocery store today are VERY dull and limited in what is offered for sale. This cookie was by far the most delicious blend of flavors you could ever ask for. I loved these cookies! Maybe they'll catch on. They get all this old stuff that is hard to find, unfortunately I never heard anything from them. PLEASE! It sounds like lots of other people would too! Please bring it back if for limited time. I was looking up pinwheel cookies and came across Ideal. I wish Nabisco would either start making them again or provide a recipe for us to make them. The cookie took a long time to eat, but it didn't last a long time at the grocery store. !I've never had a cookie I've enjoyed as much. Sign up for our email, delivered twice a week. Quit messing with your customers Nabisco or whoever owns you now in 2019. They were expensive, but worth every penny. Nabisco could reintroduce these cookies with much fanfare and publicity and then watch their profits soar. If they ever do, there is going to be mass hysteria and total chaos around the world!! These were absolutely the best.I don't remember when they stopped making these, but I DO recall not finding them at the stores and, after a while, forgetting about them, until recently.yes, they only came out in the fall because the delicate chocolate coating would melt in the heat of summer, so they weren't shipped then. Have tea in a cemetery with a dazzling view of Istanbul. Come on Nabisco make our day!! Follow us on social media to add even more wonder to your day. well I finally found out the name of these cookies that my grandmother always bought for me in the late 60s and 70s. I'd then take a small bite of both ends of the Ideal bar, dip one end into the milk and suck the milk through like a straw. Nothing else compares. http://nabiscoworld.custhelp.com/app/contact. When I ate the dark chocolate one, the first thing I thought of was the Ideal Cookie. He's asked me to search a few novelty shops (i.e., Cracker Barrell etc.) We usually had to have two packages: one for Dad, and one for the kids. Should they bring this back it would totally destroy the sales for all the other peanut butter cookies out there. When you think of dark sandwich-like cookies with a creamy white center, you probably think of Oreos, in part because Nabisco is so good at marketing. Yes, please bring the Ideal Peanut Butter Bars back along with the Hey Deys, the crispy chocolate carmel bar. Even though I feel cookies made from scratch using the finest ingredients can't be beat. They will always pull a box out right before we were leaving. susieb37@yahoo.com. These were my favorite treat as a child! Nabisco is not afraid of experimenting with its Oreo flavors. And that was the keythe slightly salty peanut butter. OMG !!! I don't ever remember having them but it sounds like they were very tasty. I love the peanut butter filled pretzels at Trader Joe's, so I may just have to try it. I dream of these cookies. And please don't pretend that apple cinnamon spice Newton is the . I found this site this morning. I would eat them with bananas!! I still hunt for them from time to time. Anyways, not as good as Ideal, I'd like to see them come back. My grandmother used to always have Ideal cookies in her cabinet when she lived in Arizona. ISO: Nabisco Ideal cookie bar clone recipe : PJ Virginia - 3-27-2006 : 1: Recipe: Ideal cookie bar information : Halyna - NY - 3-27-2006 : 2: Every weekday we compile our most wondrous stories and deliver them straight to you. Yes, we loved the chocolate-peanut butter delights that melted deliciously on our fingers enough to sit through Lawrence Welk! Waiting to see how it reacts with milk compared to what I remember. Sign up for our newsletter and enter to win the second edition of our book. I still look for them at the store too! We kept them in the refrigerator and they typically lasted less than a day. That brand would be Hydrox, the second banana of the cookie aisle, which these days simply cant compete against the marketing juggernaut that is Oreo, even if it did get a bit of a head start. I have the fondest of memories eating these cookies. They have a section where you can contact them and request they bring back Ideals. When Nabisco first started, the biscuit cookies and crackers were stored in large bins, or cracker barrels and sold at country grocery stores by the scoopful. The reason these cookies were discontinued was because the chocolate would melt during shipping which caused a quality problem. It works perfectly. I enjoyed reading everyone's comments - these cookies were the BEST and I can still remember their taste. I look for IDEAL cookies every time I am at the grocery store hoping to see that Nabisco has reintroduced them. They were fabulous and I would give anything to have one today. The legacy of Sunshine Biscuits also didnt suffer too badly, and Jacob Loose died a rich man. Bring 'em back Nabisco it's time!!! I can speak for the rest of our clan and say Nabisco bring back the Ideal Cookie Bars and make the world a sweeter place. LEMON COOLERS! mmmmMMMMmmmmmMMMMMM!!!!! An eye-opening journey through the history, culture, and places of the culinary world. Also check out the other =Food of the 70s?> pages. Nabisco reportedly discontinued the cookies because they often broke in the packaging and were too expensive to produce. Please please PLEASE bring them back! Well do you know I went right back up to that shelf and proceded to eat the rest of them. Perhaps if we all email Nabisco. (sigh) Why Nabisco why? Best cookie ever !! And they completely disintegrate in your hand when you take a bite! and Cheese Nips. It would be nice to have something come back from the past to bring back good memories likes this. Oreo, which the company . I have been looking for these cookies for 35 years and would love to have some again. They were best after being in the fridge. It was fun watching everyone scramble, grab, and nearly fight over who was going to get the Bisco's sugar wafers. I've been scouring store shelves since, but no sign of them or anything close. Those cookies were both of our favorites. He had to do all the hard work of reformulating the snack, but once he had figured that out, it was off to the races. Those of you from the Philadelphia area may remember that the Ideal Bars were originally made by Acme Markets and were packaged as an Acme product until Nabisco bought the recipe from Acme. I have fond memories of getting these and grandmas house! Giggles were shortbread cookies filled with fudge and vanilla cream, like an Oreo. I would love to see them make a comeback! Here is the Nabisco email for comments. THEY WERE THE BEST. Never could another cookie compare!! Those Ideal bars were so great, maybe the top notch ingredients didn't leave them enough profit. I agree I would pay $10 for ideals the only cookie i liked. I have the happiest memories of eating alot of these cookies!!!! Good ta know WE ARE NOT ALONE! Little Debbies just don't work for me. We should all go to Nabisco.com and start a write in campaign to resurrect them! Let us unite and show the company. I am going to keep trying and contacting them. we both started laughing when we realized how much we both wanted them! Still, it was Oreo that, as it approached its 75th anniversary in 1986, inspired The New York Times to write at length about the cookies cultural value. My god we are all correct best damn cookie ever made. Memories at my grandmothers came flooding back. There are no substitutes and I have LOOKED. He will be 48 on Monday and I have no doubt that if those cookies were still around, he would eat the entire package. How difficult can this be? Little Debbie makes a larger bar that are okay, but not from the same pure chocolate or peanut butter. Bring Back Ideal Cookies on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/pages/Bring-Back-The-Nabisco-Ideal-Cookie-Bars/256146701090663. I have been craving them for years. "Little Debbie" calls them "Peanut Butter Crunch Bars". My parents both worked for Safeway in Va. we loved those peanut butter cookie bars in the orange and brown wrapped rectangular box. Discontinuing them to develop a more profitable product may have made some punk executive a bonus but in doing so the Nabisco brand was greatly diminished. It seems like we ought to be able to recreate a recipe - anyone? What surprises me is they still make the Pinwheel which was the same line..even the same color package..kind of their higher end type cookie. These teeth-melting treats were promoted heavily, but disappeared after a few years. I also have food pages for the 80s and 90s. . If anybody ever hears of a petition please email me. I am so glad I found this site. I call Nabisco every year and ask them when they are going to start making Ideal Cookie Bars again. I recall that from late 60's to late 70's my mom would buy the cheap "kiddie" cookies for us, and Ideal Peanut Butter Bars for herself, which she would keep in the fridge. Get the word out and maybe, just maybe we'll see the BEST cookie resurrected. Everyone that leaveas a comment on this page should go to http://www.nabiscoworld.com/misccontent/contactus/contact.aspx?m=cu_form1 and tell Nabisco that you want those cookies back!!! I remember them well. Ideal cookie bars were the BEST. I remember, my step-dad bringing fresh cookies out to us when we would pick him up. These were my husband's favorite & what an awesome Christmas surprise that would be!!! But while Oreo ascended to become something of a cultural touchstone, Hydrox retained its partisans, in part also because the slightly-more-bitter cookie was also kosher. But they did not stay mad long after I offered them another cookie :). My brother DeNault asked me just a few years ago what were those cookies? When I first got married I would buy them from the grocery store (back in 1982) and my husband and I would tag team these cookies until there was an empty package left in the cabinet. Please show me where to sign up. getting the chocolate on your fingers was part of the funlicking it off after you were done with the cookie. We have so many fancy specialty items available (specialty beers; wines; whiskeys; cheeses; music; tuna; ice cream (Ben & Jerry's); candy; etc.) Nothing can compare , more like a candy bar . They are amazing! I think of these cookies often. My sister used to buy them and hide them under her bed and i would steal them. We just blogged the question to the Internet and are so surprised to find a support group. I was hoping someone who bakes would create the recipe and share it. I hope that they bring these delicious cookies back to the grocery store shelves or sell the recipe to someone else. She would always get furious as to why we were sneaking hers when we had our own. They were by far the best store bought cookie EVER made. Nabisco, the maker of Oreo cookies and other treats, said its NJ plant's approximate 600 workers have either retired, transferred or were looking for other jobs. Regular stores, specialty stores. All rights reserved. I cannot believe that I found this site. There is a Facebook page called Bring Back The Ideal Bar! The best ever cookie. Perhaps Nabisco has a deal with Reeses that they will not compeet! Womens Hairstyles . This site was so fun to find. My husband and I lived in the mountains befor they had cable, so we would listen to the stereo and have Ideal cookies and Milk two or three times a week! I miss you Ideal cookies. OMG!!!!! I am so glad I'm not the only one who misses Ideal cookies. It didn't stop me - and I would love an Ideal bar right now. Nabisco, please bring back my most favorite
cookie of all times. I made my own sandwich and helped my self to an entire package of Ideals. Good times. I used to ask for them in my Easter basket and in my Christmas stocking! My grandmother, mother, step-dad and other relatives use to work for Nabisco (anywhere from office, management & factory workers). She had the idea of looking for them online. PLEASE. Perhaps the FDA considered them addictive; I know that I could never have enough of them. I can even smell them now, I was about 9 then and now I'm 46. Invite your friends to do the same. IDEAL COOKIES ARE A FAR CRY BETTER THAN ANY OTHER THEY MAKE. Please come back. Really, we would all buy them if they would just bring them back, I would love one right now!!! Let's bring them back, people!!! PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE! Ideal ,One of the best cookies ever on the store shelf ! I would love to see these cookies back in the grocery store, or even available through online ordering. They'd have a hot stock on their hands if they did! I was a good climber too. //-->, Loading images, if this message doesn't go away you may need to enable javascript in order to see pictures. Chill dough for about an hour. I can't stop checking. My Father used to buy them and ration them to my brothers and I otherwise we would eat the whole package. Ideal cookies were a great part of childhood. Signed, Hooked for life. Both Hydrox cookies and Oreos sport elaborate designs, creme centers, and a long history. I do all the shopping! There were air gaps between the various layers of the one cookie I ate so far. Wow, how I miss those peanut butter bars. It is now Nov 2016 and still NO IDEAL cookies on the shelf..why can't Nabisco sell their Recipe for the Ideal Cookie to like a Wegmans?? Far better than anything out their now!!! What I can't understand is why Nabisco a consumer company won't even comment. I loved these when I was a little girl. I would gladly pay $10-15.00 for a box. My mother also tried her best to keep these wonderful cookies to herself and we made a game of finding where she had hidden them and sneak 1m or 2, but of course she always knew. Nabisco-PLEASE make them again. Love them and really wish they would bring them back the SAME as the were! ;o(. Those cookies and a COLD glass of milk.makes me tear up just thinking about them. Maybe they cost too much for the average consumer but we average consumers have changed and will gladly pay for quality. Oreo was one of three cookies introduced by Nabisco on April 2, 1912, with the other twothe Mother Goose biscuit and the Veronese biscuitnow lost to history. Let's get on the 'stick' and urge them! These cookies were literally like crack. When I revisted Cali they didn't have any as well. Then she dunked the whole thing in melted semi-sweet chocolate chips. The Ideal bar was more of a candy and Reeses sticks are more of a cookie. They are so missing the boat on a retro line for all of us who remember these products. It will be worth it. They were our special treat. Intended to imply hydrogen and oxygenthe two chemicals that make up waterthe result has a more clinical, less roll-off-the-tongue convention to it, and instead evokes hydrogen peroxide, a chemical you probably dont want to drink. I'm about 10 years younger than my siblings and they used to have us begging like dogs just to get the cookies. The best cookie in the world ! Please bring this cookie back so my children can enjoy them too!!! ideal cookies were the absolute best! Once I nearly cut off my finger trying to cut one from the end that had stuck to the others. More of a cookie than a cracker, these treats were discontinued in 2016. They were even better cold. No luck, so we checked another, and another. :}. However, Reeses sticks are too sweet and less rich than the Idea Bar. I would put them in the fridge. I sent an email directly to the company and didn't even receive the courtesy of a reply. One of my all time favorite cookies in the whole world!!!!! BEST COOKIE EVER MADE!! The company was improving the cookies, making them more attractive to the modern health-conscious consumer. Here's to getting them back! That has never made sense to me! They are the B E S T Cookie and if Nabisco doesn't want to make them anymore, then someone needs to reintroduce them. Awww, I knew I wasn't alone!!! Agreed. (Unlike Girl Scout Tag-alongs which are just sweet.) This was a big deal for him since he never packed his own lunch.
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