Denver area Jews, meanwhile, have expressed discomfort at the emphasis being paid to Klebold's alleged Jewishness. Born: 4-9-1981. He's wearing a plaid shirt, either dark blue or black with white; the shirt's untucked. You can play the "if only" game all day long, but ultimately, it's nothing. They could still have been on the outskirts of the school. He was steady enough on his feet to run, but not to stop himself from losing balance and falling, which he did, forehead-first right into the metal bed frame. In this difficult, jarring talk, Klebold explores the intersection between mental health and violence . In a video-diary-style recording, Dylan stated his parents had been good to him. My mom and I have always thought that my brother is one "snap" away from ending up hurting someone and/or in jail. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Few more places I can't think of now. Sue had no idea it was a life-and-death situation. Although in their rantings, they seemed to have special hatred for fags, and various other epithets for minorities that I don't even like to write, let alone speak. If only we would have asked the right questions." Those kids were their responsibility legally. What can I say, the mention of Dave Cullen's book piqued my curiosity. Klebold's parents, Thomas and Susan, lived in a sprawling, secluded house on a dirt road. She and the father lectured him, took away . Sue and her husband were vehemently opposed, but Dylan still asked for a gun for Christmas his final year. ", Eric "If only we would have searched their room. After college, the couple married and settled in the Denver area. They have grown up to be (somewhat) upstanding members of society, but I don't see how it is so easy to go from knowing your kid is making crank calls and setting off amateur pipe bombs to seeing him as a psychopathic murderer. Ken Caryl Middle, where he met Dylan Klebold. We didnt realize it until after the end, Tom Klebold said. You can't learn to feel if you don't. Is that correct? "Mrs. Klebold had her hair done the day after the shooting". The interview is set to air on "20/20" this Friday, coinciding with . Okay, well, first of all, gifted programs don't monitor shit. And it wasnx92t because they werenx92t around. Think of kids who commit suicide - often you hear their family say, "We had no idea." FULL DOCO - PT 2 OF 3, 2. Isaiah's father said. (21 at the time). Goodbye. A few weeks ago, I reviewed Sue Klebolds memoir A Mothers Reckoning: Living in the Aftermath of Tragedy, about her experience as the mother of Dylan Klebold, one of the Columbine High School shooters. From her comment on her official website, she felt it was disrespectful to focus on the killers when today should be all about the victims. it was probably dylan just being a snarky and sardonic person if the relationship had ever crumbled, or a classic father/son conflict. I don't believe I've said anything about gun control, of which this country has far too little of. VERIFY: In the past 20 years did the majority of mass shooters take psychotropic drugs? But she focuses greatly on the lead-up to that day, hoping to shed light on what happened to her son in order to help someone else see signs in their own child while they still have a chance to intervene. As we ourselves have often concluded in class, it seems Sue also came to the understanding that the massacre was the culmination of a number of different factors for Dylan, none of which on their own would have created such an act. Dylan Klebold. He's wearing black BDUs (military-style pants) tucked into military-style boots. It's far more complicated than a matter of discipline. When asked about Dylan's behavior, Byron indicated that Dylan appeared to be somewhat detached and he went on to explain that as a "pissed off teenager." Byron went on to state that Dylan gave no indication to believe that something like this was going to occur. On August 30, 2006 Columbine obsessed 18 year old Alvaro Castillo would murder his father with a sawed off Mossberg 500 shotgun at their home and then drive to a local high school and open fire. She is the mother of Dylan Klebold, one of the perpetrators of the Columbine High School massacre that occurred on April 20, 1999. He felt a need to be in control. Ed Berg, a former business associate who has talked to Tom Klebold since the shootings, said Dylan's father has come to grips with the boy's crime. Dylan's mother, Sue Klebold, confirmed to radio host Terry Gross on "Fresh Air" Tuesday that she is Jewish, and her now ex-husband, Dylan Klebold's father, is Lutheran, and said her son . Both Adam and Dylan seemed to have good relationships with their moms (though Adam actually ended up killing his mother the day of the shooting), both struggled in school (Adam actually switched schools a few times. Eric's dad answered a phone call from Green Mountain Guns. And psychiatrists, rather dubious "doctors" push drugs. "Doctors" can profit, too, financially, when their names are attached to certain "studies.". People can be fooled. Growing up in Ohio, she had a mixed religious upbringing with her Christian mother and Jewish father. His mom was trying to find the best fit for him, but I suspect it ended up being more difficult for him), and both enjoyed violent video games. As much as it sucked I knew deep down that it was just a stage and that it wasn't real. I'm with VoTN on this one. Funny how things cycle. ", "If they had even one shred of decency they would have taken full responsibility for creating and shaping and not monitoring these monsters.". He overslept and missed a class and was sleeping when I got home. Sue received a number of letters from people whod gone to Columbine who were more surprised that a shooting hadnt happened sooner than that one had happened at all. IIRC, they both had psychiatric attention. Stop doing that." No, they hated the gay boys almost as much as they hated the jocks. ", [quote]Eric: "Morris, Nate, if you guys live, I want you guys to have whatever you want from my room and the computer room.". Harris was excelling in classes in the year leading up to the murders. Tonight, an interview with Sue Klebold, Dylan's mother, is set to air on the ABC news-magazine . She hyped it up as a must see and an insight to what really happened. Find it interesting Tom would say he was Dylan's best friend. It was very easy to read despite being a difficult topic. Hey mom, gotta go Tom isnt even included in the insincere goodbye. Apparently his meds caused an issue with a military enlistment, but wouldn't a caring parent sit down with their kid and figure out a Plan B? Just three days before the shooting, he went to prom with a friend. Real estate records indicate they bought their 10-acre plot in 1990 for $65,000. additionally, dylan was definitely naturally shy. We monitored what movies our boys could see, and put them to bed with stories and prayers and hugs (p. 61). I knew he was off, different. on Thursday, April 23rd, 2020 After I wrote a column a few weeks ago about the 1999 shootings at Columbine High School, I got e-mail from Tom Klebold, the father of Dylan Klebold, one of the . . They will live on forever !!!!!!!! Not only had Dylan experienced bullying in school, his school fit some of the factors that meant it was most at risk for a shooting by ignoring certain behaviors and otherwise unevenly enforcing the rules. His parents knew this, though not the extent of it. "Susan said, came when somebody said, "I forgive you for what you've done." Can you imagine having one of those monsters as your brother? I was just worried Dylan was unhappy (p. 227). Based on what I've read so far, he's working off the assumption that Klebold was a depressive with self-destructive tendencies (he mentions suicide over and over in the journal kept for two years prior to the incident), and that Harris was a full-blown psychopath. I can't remember. 5. I don't really know what to say about the parents. Age : 36. The real tragedy of Columbine isn't the deaths, it's the failure to work to change our culture (from bullying to gun control) in the aftermath. VOTN needs to get a clue. This girl went on screaming for full minutes at a time - nobody came out of the house and told her to be quiet. If there is a hell, they are there, burning. Oprah asked the teachers to describe Harris/Klebold, the teachers talked about how they didn't fit in, wore trenchcoats, seemed troubled and dangerous, and so on. Read a little more about the case, R28. "Hey, Sci-fi-tologist, fuck off with your anti-psychology bullshit". Empathy; not so much. These people do have emotions. Without one factor (their brains) or the other (the guns), this wouldn't have happened the way it did, but I don't see the point of dismissing/elevating one over the other. Thats Something that stands out about Dylan anyway, the Lack of Emotion regarding his parents. I can't believe Oprah canceled her Columbine show today. I also agree with R7. I remember Oprah had teachers and students from Columbine on her show within a month of the event. I think those that readily (and outrightly) blame the parents are inclined to do so as to perpetuate some aspect of control, otherwise the shear nature of the case becomes too frightening. By David Brooks. However, most people know they are guilty as sin and should burn in hell with their son. He still was the boy his parents joked seemed to be on autopilot (p. 65), but Sue notes that this may have been particularly dangerous in his case. For a couple reasons. When I was 16 my parents sure as hell would have known if I had firearms in my possession or were building pipe bombs anywhere near our home. This is my (completely layman's) opinion, but I've always figured that we have more or less tamped down the "How" of the brain, but we're still working on the "Why" of the brain. The term "psychopath" was in academic use by the early 1910s, and the definitive work on psychopathy was published in 1941. Dylan Klebold, along with his friend Eric Harris, shot and killed 13 people and injured 23 others in April, 1999 in Columbine High School, before they turned their guns on . Who is "limiting" the discussion to the brain? New York: Crown. [quote]Am I supposed to be impressed by dates, VOTN? When someone is in a store, that is not their own private property. Hi Alison, But 936 pages of evidence taken from the killers' homes and cars were released by the Jefferson County Sheriff's office on Thursday, and a notebook kept by Eric's father . Spelling aside, Eric Harris had turned 18 about a week prior. And even then we may never uncover the truth. I kind of admire that. You unterstand. Tom seemed to view Dylan as his best friend/soulmate, at least according to what Sue has told us. I wanted an apology. Sorry. Do you think Dylans dad could embarrass him as a child in front of other people or humiliate him in other ways that could result in Dylans low self esteem or was Dylan naturally shy? He was fiercely independent, insisting his mother teach him how to bathe himself at the age of 5 or 6, and how to do his own laundry at age 10. Dylanx92s father worked from home and saw his son every day. I knew it wasnt nearly so simple (p. 146). "This was murder," he said. Second, the reason no one at the school noticed is because no one is ever trained to notice. Yet, despite a happy upbringing, Dylan still did what he did. He started getting in trouble, and complained of how certain groups of kids were ruthless bullies, yet the school did nothing to stop them.