:), Absolutely gorgeous. @mpto Thanks so much, can't wait to see your final product!! p.s. You can get a natural matte finish in medium- light tones with the colors mist, natural, white 5%, white, and cotton white. YesBona Traffic HD is MUCH more expensive than over-the-counter stuff. I fear, though, that the amber color has penetrated the wood since a sealer was not used and I am stuck with a yellow floor. Yes. (The Classic has less of a haze.) Nora are you installing tower or Windsor? I think over the years, they learned how to avoid distressed clients who hate the finished floor color. trump2 would love to see the final product and what you chose, if your floors are finished. The raw wood that was laid (almost the whole house) looks beautiful. How are you liking it so far? And rubio makes a treatment for acid stains. Classic seal gave a deeper color but I found it to be too yellow. Just wondering if 2 coats of the Traffic HD is enough or should I add a 3rd coat of the finish even in rooms that arent used as heavily? The floors are being installed and finished by Brazilian Floors (they have several locations in the D.C. metro area). I did call Bona and they assured me that none of the 3 sealers would add "yellow" or "amber" to my floors - but thought I'd also ask here. I did look at photo posts to get an idea of what product/color I was looking for as I wanted something a little more custom and different. Yes, thsts bleached and toned oak with a matte finish. Thank you. @Renee Czeryba, Natural SEALER and Traffic HD. Contact your Bona rep to understand all the options with the Bona System or view our catalog here: https://bit.ly/3eqqhSK. In this angle Nordic is on the right and Natural is on the left. Bona Craft oil 2K oiled floor in COLOR Air and dogs. The correct answer should be "nothing at all". :), @bowmeister67 and @widdy23 I used exactly what bowmeister said , 1 coat of Bona Nordic seal and 3 coats of Bona Traffic HD satin. Unfortunately, we have put our kitchen reno on hold. Forget prefinished. is the only way to go. The coating should not come up. Give a price you can make a living off of and let someone else win the low ball estimates. Or Loba 2K + their stain lineyou get the idea. (Just read the dog drool threads.) I could only post one photo at a time. In the finishing business, 'special' requires a bigger price tag. It seems much darker than the close up picture with the paper removed Just wondering which is closer to what you see in person? And cure times are the BEST case scenario (temps and humidity are ASSUMED to be PERFECT = they NEVER are in a home setting = please leave an extra day). 1 coat per day, buffing every coat for extra smoothness. Finished with three matte protective coats. I do love the natural color. Just stick with Bona Traffic HD in a satin and you will be fine. Two things to do: First, drag your fingernail across it, see what happens. And using Bona Traffic HD is a MASSIVE upgrade over Mega. I had just had floors done by a floor shop, two years of hospice requires me to redo them, seems a layer can be scraped up with a spackle scraper easily and turned dark ( like cherry wood does in sunlight but this was white oak ). Looks like it was a screen shot with the flooring compan of Seattle Hardwood out of Mukilteo. I am attempting to coordinate real white oak with white oak LVPthe unfinished white oak is an amazing match to the Paradigm Conquest Windsor and Towerwanting to basically stain/seal the posts and rails in a way that changes the natural state the least, neutralizing any weed tones. The finish will look different if you start with different white oak. Plato has the white oak shade we like - nude cream - but the estimate came in really high. But they did just complete a project with Bona NordicSeal. Apply the second coat. if anyone else has found a reasonable solution, could you pls share what you did and a few pix? The real way this is tested is actually even meaner to the floor - normally you take a box cutter, cross-hatch the floor (IE cut it in a grid pattern), and then put the tape on it and rip it up. I wasnt wild about any of the patterns. Compare that to the 2 MINUTES you have with Bona! You will save a little compared to Traffic HD, perhaps $0.25 psf. Is there another more affordable option I can try? If you think of the paint color of your cabinets.pass it on please. Those are STUNNING! For someone to get this done 'properly' takes training. I have found some great inspirational pictures. They have been through such an immense amount of heat and pressure during formation that all the sand grains have become crystals of Quartz. If that's OK to do (ie I remember hearing it's a problem when you apply more layers like poly but I'm not sure) it might work for you. They don't turn orangebut they do throw a strong YELLOW hue onto the floors. I would have loved to find a simpler, cheaper, regular old stain, but they just don't give me the same look I'm trying to achieve. And it does NOT cause amberingbut the Mega does. She lucked out and her floors look pretty good. The white background wasnt a true white but it wasnt bad and the marbling was pretty. It won't tell you what caused the scratching (glass particles in sand is the usual culprit. Your floors are as important as your roof. The 'big boys' of the finishing industry are 2-3 times more expensive than DuraSeal (and for good reason) which means the professionals will make less money. We recently installed new white oak hardwoods and did not like the color they turned out and will be refinishing them again - would love to get it right second time around (felt the floors looked a lot different when complete than our small sample in round one). If neither does anything to your floor, the floor coating is at least in reasonable shape. Will do.My two cents now that we are almost 6 month in. If you read the question carefully, you would understand I answered that the last coat of finish was applied Saturday. . ! Thanks! Will there be less haze if we use a satin finish? He told me that the floor would look the same, which was obviously a lie. Yeah, thats what I am realizing. Photos would be helpful. He will then send the sample to a Sherwin Williams Product Finishes Store and they will match the sample. Watching them put it on, it doesnt look like the work applying it would be more than other finish products. But maybe it is just old and scratched over the years? We have decided to go with a mix of white and light wood for the cabinets. Take the time to try all of the sample combinations. New This Week: 3 Knockout Kitchens With Natural Wood Cabinets, Trending Now: 11 Popular Kitchens That Rock Not-White Cabinets, New This Week: 3 Welcoming White-Cabinet Kitchens, New This Week: 6 Stylish Not-White Kitchen Cabinet Colors, 4 Kitchens With White Cabinets and a Wood Island. WebOur new build has white oak hardwoods & Id LOVE to have them look like these. Some comments that NaturalSeal has a slight white cloudiness? I recall having 3 layers - but my old post notes 4. Curtains will block the bookcase. WebBona NaturalSeal Brand: Bona 87 ratings $8892 FREE Returns Customer ratings by feature Durability 5.0 Value for money 4.3 Easy to use 4.0 See all reviews Similar item to consider Amazon's Choice AmazonCommercial Multi-Purpose Enzyme Cleaner, 1-Gallon, 1-Pack (12347) $24.97 ($0.20/Fl Oz) Frequently bought together + + Total price: Here are pictures of Bona Natural and Traffic HD on white oak for anyone wondering, Gorgeous! white oak floors, stain them or leave natural? I dont want to hide the clerestory windows with coverings and dont like the strings that show with bottom-up shades (maybe OK for the bedrooms). If the floor looks as good as this little exposed area, Ill be really HAPPY. @j, @ Renee, It is satin. Here's how to see if marble's right for you, A couple remodel their kitchen to better match their 19th-century Oregon homes style, The cabinets and a new layout transform a once-dark New Jersey kitchen into a light and bright space, Avoid going too traditional and too clean by introducing an off-white palette that brings a touch of warmth and elegance, Sure, white kitchens are beautiful when theyre sparkling clean. When it came to a finish, I didn't want any red or yellow coloration. Yes, Trump2 I agree. Great photos and beautiful floors! Do you have high ceilings ? See the before and afters and why we chose this color. Looking at pictures of finished jobs of all three, its difficult to tell the difference. How to keep red oak floors light and natural? will slightly darken the floors and sort of intensify the variation (the sample boards almost looked wet to me). We got to see snippets of the finished floor today, and we love what we see. For the finish, use a water-based product, not an oil-based product which can yellow from sun exposure over time. I have some anxiety he didn't apply the poly in the correct thickness. @Mary Elizabeth I think we have narrowed it down to Ciranova's products..after testing theirs, Rubio Monocoat and several Pallman's waxes, plus a number of normal stains. No way to maintain and they ALL show scratches very easily and I should know- I get called a lot because of it Help! And, to be fair to the above poster. We wanted to end up with a floor that looked as close to our raw wood as possible but had lots of protection. White oak seems to be kind of tricky. Met with our selected cabinet company last week and played with stain mixed with white paint on rift oak samples. If that does something, it's busted, you don't need to test further. "1 coat seal and 2 coats finish. BTW after the fabricator installed the countertops (and carefully covered them to protect them), other contractors uncovered them and used them as a work bench and scratched them up - a lot! I would say he under bid the job and was pushing himself to finish (he rushed the stainwhich is why it is inconsistent) so that he could move on and make money on another job. Thank you and the pros who commented for the valuable info! By the way, did you use any fillers to fill the knots and gaps between the planks? Double cost any standard stained finish. What was really helpful to us is that the installer did lots of different samples for us and every new layer of the top coat changed how the wood looked. Seems I also read that it may not even cover that much some places. Our cabinet maker hasn't been able to match what we are hoping for. And all the answers. The samples are done AFTER you hire the professional but BEFORE you put down the stain! Erfahren Sie hierzu mehr in der Houzz Cookie-Richtlinie. They either look to white/milkey or they are orangish yellow. I acknowledged that there would be an upcharge for the TrafficHD and expected it. I waxed it out. Houzz Pro: One simple solution for contractors and design pros. Not always as expected. My flooring guy said (and backed it up with a sample) that a water-based sealant with *no tint* (I think Bona ClassicSeal?) Show me your white oak floors w duraseal country white or Bona white! Can they be easily buffed out with a non-scratch sponge? The contractor has also suggested one coat of Loba 2K Supra on top. A red oak floor does not need sealant. Here are our raw floors right now. Also did the installer abrade between the seal & finish coats? I would bet it would come in at the same price as a "buff and coat" (national average = $3/sf). 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Below Jack and Jill bath with Corian countertop AND Corian integrated sinks. The 3 coats of finish (the expensive HD stuff) is the Gold Standardbut 2 coats + sealant is still very good. It is 3/4 x 5 solid white oak hardwood. Bona sealer to avoid uneven tannin pull due to using a water based poly, (especially on white oak), no stain, then Bona Traffic HD. Over the years, theres been a lot of things Ive cut costs on, but I feel it doesnt pay to skimp on a major feature of my new house that should last for a very long time. Thank you! Did 4 coats of nordic and 3 traffic hd on 1 dollar a sq foot utility 4 inch white oak but some was red oak as well but still my dog likes it. Your house lay out seems very much like ours! I have some anxiety he didn't apply the poly in the correct thickness. It still a major upgrade from Bona MEGa. Think NCAA and NBA courts. Not change the raw color much, 2. 3 coats in one day. We are going with Ciranova "smoke" Unico oil--a one coat product--- which is very similar to Rubio's Smoke 5%, but it can be covered with Ciranova's Fortico (supposedly equal to Bona Traffic). The FASTEST curing water based products are Bona Traffic HD and Loba 2K Supra AT. How did you retained the natural color of the wood? Can they be easily buffed out with a non-scratch sponge? It was another rude comment from someone who was engaging in further confrontation.Ive already asked Houzz to delete the post. We are wrapping up our new build and the floor stain choice was today. For a house your size and a $50k budget. In real life, they dont have as much brown as in the photo. The tile on the back wall of the shower and the backsplash is a soft baby blue glass. I knew this was IT. 2 coats of Nordic seal & 2 coats of traffic HD ? Thanks so much in advance!! Out of curiosity what width floorboards did you use (and which manufacturer did you go with)? Our project starts on Dec 5. This only matters for porosity not hardness. P.P.S. I didn't choose the Nordic because I thought the white pigment made it look unnatural. Any suggestions on deciding one over the other? Please dont post again while I figure out how to delete this post. I should add that I planned to use Bona Traffic HD finish as well since I read how durable it is and how it goes on clear without yellowing the wood. @ Moran.now I see where this has come up. I asked for, but he never did, an all country white one. @Moran Blueshtein. They're supposed to start the finish tomorrow morning and it is Bona MEGA clear. Oak floors are beautiful and timeless. That's like painting a master piece with 10 minutes on the clock. I do have a lot of experience with these stones because I own a Granite, Quartz and Quartzite company. 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It may not be the same price you would get if you buy it yourself from Cochrans. @Ryan Danielson, I just told my cabinet maker to go ahead and order my cabinet doors in the rift oak so I've only got a couple of weeks to get this figured out. The solid white D e k t o n didnt clean up as well as Neolithic or Corian. Use Bona Naturaseal for the look you want. Even Van Gogh couldn't do that! The tub area is ok -but Im glad I didnt get it in the kitchen. After seeing this post and refinishing parents floor, I want your oak in my house you did fantastic job. I would appreciate your advice on how to avoid the haze and advice on the Nordic product. Color we like the Bona Nordic best and the Bona Natural second, but they both have a muddy haze when you see them in real life. If you have 3000sf then the $2500 upgrade is nothing. They are not even good choices for low care floors. The reason: they turn orange. I didnt want to pull up the protective paper but you can see the floor a little better in this photo. We only did two and are already seeing wear and tear on the first floor in our main living space. My fear was that a lower quality finish would yellow or amber the wood. thanks, so much. Light, white sealed floors or dark dramatic floors? The problem is that at this point my trust level is quite low. I looked at the bona product and it states it contains a small amount of white pigment? The builder already ordered the wood. Bona Traffic finishes questions for people that have used it. There are some finishes that are a 'high-gloss satin' but I don't know where Bona Traffic HD satin sits on the glossy or not gloss level. Each to their own. The bleaching added to the cost and another opportunity for something to go wrong. Use two coats of natural seal and two coats of naturale. I would use Bona natural seal or classic with traffic hd extra matte. They were great to work with. Can they be easily buffed out with a non-scratch sponge? I love your base molding, where do you buy that from? I've seen professionals with 40 years experience ruin a water based applicationtwice. Bona Traffic finishes questions for people that have used it. So far, this seems to be going well. That leave NaturalSeal, ClassicSeal and IntenSeal. Someone else on here suggested Durasupreme. I wish people would just post the actual products they use as there are a lot of great examples but no "recipes". We did one coat of Bona natural seal and two coats of Bona HD extra matte on white oak. They are not the same color as my white oak, but shes happy with them. Im torn between satin and matte, We didn't move in yet so I cannot comment on it . @CEM TOSA It took me forever to decide on countertops. We were going after the Studio McGee house look attached. Ask for Bona Mega One. We tried a few Duraseal stains on samples and none of them were right. Here are some of my samples. @widdy23 Seems like everything is taking longer than expected. Please continue to post pictures of your kitchen. Was a bit of a risky choice, went with a pretty unusual/bold extra wide 5" wide pattern and I think it turned out well. Of course the MORE coats you put on today.the FEWER coats you have to ADD in 15 years time (called a buff and coat and costs $3/sf on average). I just had four rooms of 30-year-old white oak floors sanded down to the raw wood and refinished with Bona products. Bona DriFast Stains are compatible with all Bona finishing systems, including waterborne. https://sprucingupmamahood.com/provenza-vinyl-flooring-review/. And this will continue to occur until the finish is "done right". A quick scan of my question and then a quick scan of your answer simply lead G & S to believe all 3 coats were put down same day.which happens more than you really want to know. But maybe it is just old and scratched over the years? These are the guys who put down 3 coats in one day and then p!ss off. And finally, a 'fit' *might include costs.but it should be much lower on the list than you might think. My sister has Neolith and loves it (clean up a breeze but she does have nicks near her sink after 1 year). I guess it's my monitor because I don't see the pink undertone in the Houzz photo you last posted. Maybe instead of wanting it natural, I really wanted it lighter rather than a medium to darker stain. @Elaine Gauthier Art Did you find any solution or larger cabinet maker that has the white oak? Can you share the color? They look closer to the raw wood tone. Can you add some white to the Renner System? How to best deal with prominent railings in split level home, Durability of white macabus quartzite vs. quartz. In this video, Joe demonstrates how to use Bona NordicSeal to achieve a whitewashed look in a hardwood floor. Carly, we are trying to decide between Bona Classic Seal or Natural Seal? I screwed that up a few times. Their availability (not alwaysbut sometimes) or their LACK of availability (the best people are ALWAYS BOOKED months in advance). It seems like we are the first to ask for the white oak with all the cabinet makers in our area. @mtpo sorry to bring this thread back. It looks like you have SOLID 5" (that ranks as wide plank = glue assist) White Oak. I went to the Neolith east coast showroom and actually picked something out I loved but my builders fabricator talked me out of it. !Are you happy with the Satin? Can a bathroom door swing out instead of in? I was thinking Bona Natural and then Bona Extra Matte finish? One coat Bona Natural Seal A very slight natural stain similar to the white oak color of our floors. We elected to go with rift sawn white oak cabinets. white/grey countertops with light wood floor & stainless appliances. I have been on these boards so many times looking for advice and photos from what others have done. This was such a great informative thread. Consider greige, blush, distressed blue or one of these other instant-classic cabinet colors, Try this classic kitchen combination for a design thats warm and inviting, Landscape Architects & Landscape Designers, Outdoor Lighting & Audio/Visual Specialists, Bleached White Oak Cabinets Star in This Two-Tone Kitchen, Seeing Green: Some Kitchens Ditch White for Mother Natures Neutral, Hold Everything Your White Kitchen Cabinets Just Got Better, White Cabinets Remain at the Top of Kitchen Wish Lists. Also, the guy said they usually apply the sealer one day, then one or two finish coats the next day (running into the 3rd day depending on how it dries).